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TEHELKA: Who worked for him?
LT. COL. BERRY: The people. The users…the QA, the R&D and aviation people, ADEs. Bangalore, there are three-four departments there.

TEHELKA: You didn't get anything?
LT. COL. BERRY: Some thing. But not what was promised. And one can't even speak out…you know…

TEHELKA: Yeah, yeah.
LT. COL. BERRY: These are the things of that nature. So now people are very cautious.

TEHELKA: You did give bribe up to the Air Force chief?
LT. COL. BERRY: Yeah, yeah. Certainly. It has to be. So…

TEHELKA: What is the grapevine?
LT. COL. BERRY: Hmm?

TEHELKA: What is the grapevine?
LT. COL. BERRY: Grapevine is that he is the one who worked for George Fernandes. He is the conduit. So he is…[gestures]. The main thing is that. And prior to that, actually speaking, this deal just fell into his lap. See when Deve Gowda and his…somewhere. He was involved in this. Initially. It is only lately he has been involved to get the kickback. So it was that thing. So… now that you are already in number of businesses… you know the Indian market, and you know Indian culture. Everything is known to. So things have to be controlled like that.

MAJ. GEN. MURGAI: Sir, there is one UK-based company. West End International.
MEHTA: Achcha.

MAJ. GEN. MURGAI: It's a multinational spread over…
MEHTA: Hmm hmm

MAJ. GEN. MURGAI: …various countries.
MEHTA: I see!

MAJ. GEN. MURGAI: Their basic range is they are making electronic products….
MEHTA: Hmm, hmm.

MAJ. GEN. MURGAI: …and electronic testimonials…
MEHTA: Hmm hmm.

MAJ. GEN. MURGAI …rest they have got these night-vision devices.
MEHTA: Okay.

MAJ. GEN. MURGAI: Okay. And now they are spreading their tentacles…trying to come over to various countries including India…
MEHTA: Hmm.

MAJ.GEN. MURGAI: …i.e. they have made a beginning.
MEHTA: Hmm.

MAJ. GEN. MURGAI: So, in due course of time they want to…
MEHTA: Hmm.
MAJ. GEN. MURGAI: …he is representing them.

[T gives his calling card to Mr. L M Mehta]

TEHELKA: Sir, it is written the liaisoning…but I am not a liaisoning…but I am the chief representative of this company. I am the staff of, I am a employee of this company.
MEHTA: Hmm, that is good.

MAJ. GEN. MURGAI: So, he is trying to now carry out a study ki what all we can portray it in the commercial market. And, whatever we could bid, tell them as the requirement occurs. That he carrying out a study and…the…

MEHTA: What is the product range?
TEHELKA: Which one, sir.

MEHTA: Product range.
MAJ. GEN. MURGAI: Product range. What all…
TEHELKA: What we have…
MEHTA: Yeah.

TEHELKA: Sir, we have a tank navigation system…
MEHTA: Achha.

TEHELKA: And that is part ammunition, and some very typical type of bombs....

MEHTA: I see.
TEHELKA: So, a lot of products, we are supplying NATO countries also.

[Pause]

MEHTA: So you must remain on their payroll.
TEHELKA: Yeah.

MEHTA: You should be employed.
TEHELKA: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

MEHTA: This...you are an agent and nobody would allow you.
TEHELKA: No, I am not a agent.

[T laughs]

MEHTA: Obviously
TEHELKA: Yeah, yeah, sir. I am a share…

MEHTA [interrupts]: It should be on the records also.
TEHELKA: Sir, I am a shareholder of the company.

MEHTA: That's still better.
MAJ. GEN. MURGAI: Actually, he is not a technical…

TEHELKA [interrupts]: Sir, I don't know any technical things.
MAJ. GEN. MURGAI: So, at the moment…

MEHTA [interrupts]: No, you should acquire some designation like Director.
TEHELKA: Yeah, yeah… like that…

MEHTA: Sales or something, that public relations also…
TEHELKA: Yeah, yeah.

MEHTA: Because that would give you that the sounding status instead of chief liaison officer.
TEHELKA: Okay.