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TEHELKA: I have come directly. I have my credibility.
My company's having the credibility. I don't need to meet
through you, Mr. Gupta.
BANGARU LAXMAN: Okay, don't argue.
TEHELKA: Mr. Gupta told me, "I will think about it."
So I said, "I am an Indian. I came directly to meet you."
BANGARU LAXMAN: He told you?
TEHELKA: There is…there is…no need. You do not ask
company to do everything for you…every time. Sir, we have
some…promotional projects. There is no problem…absolutely
nothing? Hain! I am asking you?
BANGARU LAXMAN: No…I don't know how you…you came into
his contact but….
TEHELKA: No. I contact that…they…they approached us.
They told they are doing liaisoning work of BJP. That he...he
is a trustee of RSS. So then Murli Madhavan told me that he
talked to you for 10 lakhs. And you asked for 20 lakhs only…for
this issue.… My boss came to know. "If Mr. BANGARU LAXMAN
takes Rs. 20 lakh?" then he asked me not to give. That is
the thing, sir, I want to need clarification. Sir, I can…I
can…I can come directly to you? There is no need for party
men.
BANGARU LAXMAN: You come direct. One day casually I
asked him….
TEHELKA: Hmm…Yeah, yeah.
BANGARU LAXMAN: We have…he said.
[Bangaru
Laxman appears in the frame for a few
seconds and later the frame moves back to T.]
BANGARU LAXMAN: …He said how things we don't normally
involve….I said okay.
TEHELKA: No, that. No, we have a lot of other things.
Power projects and lot of things we have. You know, once we
are starting from the binoculars. You know, several times
he asked me, "I want to introduce.... I will go to introduce
Mr. Bangaru…. Mr. BANGARU LAXMAN." I said this, "I
am an Indian. I don't know Hindi very well." So I said, "Yes,
I am an Indian. I can go directly meet…meet him. I have the
company credibility there. Company's just like…bigger than
Tata. You know, I can go directly to meet Mr. BANGARU LAXMAN.
He can understand my position. Isn't it?"
BANGARU LAXMAN: Accha.
TEHELKA: Isn't it? There is…I don't need any commitment
from you also.
BANGARU LAXMAN: All right. Meeting was set. I'm your…
[Frame shifts back and forth.]
TEHELKA: All right. …Satya...
BANGARU LAXMAN: Directly contact me.
TEHELKA: Hmm?
BANGARU LAXMAN: Talk directly.
TEHELKA: Hmm.
BANGARU LAXMAN: First he [Sathyamurthi] will
fix up appointment.
TEHELKA: Yeah.
TEHELKA: Sir, can…can I give you one lakh rupees for
it? For a token. My…
[Sound of door opening and closing. Somebody enters and
says something to Bangaru
Laxman offscreen and leaves.]
TEHELKA: Sir, my boss is here. In…in…a…in Oberoi executive...executive
suite.
BANGARU LAXMAN: Accha.
TEHELKA: So he also wants to meet you.
BANGARU LAXMAN: Accha.
TEHELKA: So, can you arrange the appointment tomorrow?
Can you arrange?
BANGARU LAXMAN: Tomorrow?
TEHELKA: Hmm. So….
[Camera shifts towards Bangaru
Laxman]
TEHELKA: So he will come and meet you. So will you…uh…what
I told to Mr. Satya that matter.
BANGARU LAXMAN: Hmm.
[Bangaru is fully in the frame now]
TEHELKA: For the party fund.
BANGARU LAXMAN: Hmm.
TEHELKA: I have five lakh rupees.
BANGARU LAXMAN: Hmm.
TEHELKA: And today I will give you one lakh rupees.
For just the beginning. A New Year gift.
BANGARU LAXMAN: Hmm, hmm.
TEHELKA: Okay? But…but…but, tell me, sir, very frankly,
Mr. R.K. GUPTA told me he arranged the meeting. Outside
the….
BANGARU LAXMAN: I do not know what exactly transpired
between you and him. He just…he was mentioning….
TEHELKA: Okay.
BANGARU LAXMAN: (quoting R.K. GUPTA):
"Sir, are you interested in that work? Would you entertain?"
I said he's already met me and…
[Camera shifts towards Tehelka]
[Tehelka takes out wads of currency notes and hands them
over to Bangaru
Laxman]
TEHELKA: Sir, this is a small gift… small gift.
BANGARU LAXMAN: Oh, no, no…
TEHELKA: It's a small gift for the New Year party.
Right?
[Frame again shifts towardsBangaru
Laxman]
[Bangaru
Laxman opens the drawer, takes money
from Tehelkaand puts it away]
TEHELKA: New Year party fund, hain? One lakh rupee,
hain?
[Pause]
TEHELKA: So what time can I call my boss here?
BANGARU LAXMAN: Tomorrow…hmm…
[T's mobile phone rings]
BANGARU LAXMAN: …Five o'clock.
TEHELKA: Yeah, in five o'clock. In here?
TEHELKA: And then…rupee.
BANGARU LAXMAN: When do you…?
TEHELKA: Tomorrow. Rupee or dollar?
BANGARU LAXMAN: Dollars. You can give dollars.
TEHELKA: Okay. We can give you dollars. Sir, we need
your blessing.
BANGARU LAXMAN: Okay.
TEHELKA: Okay. I will not take Mr. R.K. GUPTA
to…. I can come directly to you. Anytime I need I will make
appointment with Mr Satyamurthy. Okay?
[Bangaru
Laxman rises. They shake hands.]
The third meeting with
Bangaru
Laxman took place with Alvin D'Souza,
president of West End. Laxman was expecting a sum of around
$25,000 from West End. We didn't want to tell them that
there was no sum to be delivered till after the meeting
when everything would already be on tape. Here Laxman
talks about how the BJP and Vajpayee use Principal Secretary
Brajesh Mishra as the guy who pushes their deals. Mishra,
incidentally, is the National Security Adviser. Both Laxman
and West End argue that R.K. GUPTA had no hand
in the meeting. |
TEHELKA: I'm Alvin D'Souza.
TEHELKA: And he is…Mr. BANGARU LAXMAN, president,
party in power. They are the ruling party. The biggest political
party.
BANGARU LAXMAN: You are based in…?
TEHELKA: Based in London. We have interests in Telecom,
Power, Aviation and Defence, obviously. We are trying to get
a foothold in the Indian defence market through hand-held
thermal cameras. Night vision. And if there's a prospect of
something in…we'll be prepared to do it at a very no-profit
basis if it gives us an entry into the Indian market. In that
sense. We just wanted your blessings on the project. And Mathew's
telling me there's a slight problem in that.
TEHELKA: Yeah, yeah, sir. What is the problem? I told
Mr. Krishna also this matter. There is basically one Israeli
company there. So they are basically El-Op, El-Op. So one
Mr. Brajesh…Mr. Brajesh Mishra, that principal secretary to
PM, he is supporting that company very, very openly. So you
know at that time, you know, he won't allow that third company
in the picture.
TEHELKA: So that is not that formidable a problem.
TEHELKA: Exactly, exactly…I said…yeah, yeah.
TEHELKA (interrupts): You can solve it.
TEHELKA: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I, I convinced my boss
that Mr. BANGARU LAXMAN can give that, the political
cover in this matter.
[Pause]
TEHELKA: Did you show him our brochures?
TEHELKA: Yeah, yeah. I did.
BANGARU LAXMAN: Yes, I've seen.
[Pause]
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